1DS-MarkII - Further thoughts?

[Craig Howell]

Any further thoughts on sharpening 1DS-MarkII files with Photokit Sharpener?

Thanks,
Craig

[imagenes_vivas]

As a recent 1Ds Mark II owner (wonderful files!) I am also interested in recomendations about using PhotoKit Sharpener.

I have been using the software in the last 6 months with a 1D Mark II and although at the beginning I used High Resolution Sharpen (at Capture Sharpening), with the time I use more and more Medium Resolution with this camera model. With my new 1Ds II I found similar results but I am a upset to use Medium Resolution in a 16,7 Mp camera.

Any thoughts or any new version of Photokit for this excepcional camera?

[WJaekel]

Bruce,

I'm also very interested to know when there will be an update of PK sharpener available for the 1DsMk2 as well as some recommendations for the settings concerning the 1DMk2. Both issues had been adressed in earlier threads last year.

I was very happy with PK sharpener (capture sharpening/output sharpening ) for my 1Ds and 10D cameras so far, but I'm not content concerning the results with the new Canons - especially the 1DsMK2 until now.

Best regards

Wolfgang Jaekel

CPS-member

[Bruce Fraser]

I'd like a clearer idea of what you feel is the problem with Digital High-Res Sharpen on the 1DsMkII, preferably with examples. You can send files and details to me at

bruce@pixelgenius.com.

One problem is that there's no consistency to the feedback I'm getting?50% say "too soft" and the other 50% say "too crunchy." On the limited sample of IDsMkII files I've seen, I haven't seen anything I considered a problem. So, I'm willing, but I really need examples that show problems before I can fix them.

What other new Canon cameras produce results with Sharpener that you don't like? Im shooting a 20D, and find it responds very well indeed to Digital High-Res.

[WJaekel]

Bruce,

thank you very much for your quick reply. Concerning the 1DsMk2, the files provided by DHRes sharpening are indeed too soft in my opinion since this camera - beside the higher pixel count - has a stronger AA filter than the 1Ds so that much more sharpening is necessary to bring out the details. I also refer to a reply of Jeff Schewe (see the thread on Nov 16th 2004 concerning this issue) in which he mentioned that probably an additional PK option for the 16-22MP cameras should be added to PKS.

As soon as I've time to provide a good sample I will send it to you.

Concerning the 1DMK2 there's also more sharpening required than with my 10D. But of course I don't think that an additional option or update is necessary here though the raw files differ from those of the 20D when converted with Capture One 3.6. It's more or less the question how the settings can be tweaked to get the best results. I found some artefacts in the files sharpened with Digital High Res sharpening (i.e. a dotted line around the becs of some bird shots) that were not visible when I used USM alone. It's hard to describe so I will mail you an example too as soon as possible. Thank you much for your efforts and help in advance.

Best regards

Wolfgang

[Craig Howell]

Hi Bruce,

I started this thread in response to a thread started by skahn (11/16/2004) asking if "Digital High Res Sharpen" was the most appropriate setting for the 1DS Mark II. Jeff Schewe responded that his 1DS II was still on the boat and that when he received it "We'll test to see". He followed that with, "Chances are Bruce and I will test it and find we really need to add another catagory for it and the 22MP cameras." Further down the thread you add, "Watch this space is about all I can say at this point." and "I'm sure there are things we'll want to tweak for the very high-res cameras that didn't exist when we built the basic routines, but the Edge Width parameter is still a critical one."

Anyway, I've been watching and hadn't seen any further mention of what you guys found out. My approach is to learn what people are doing who know more than me, try their suggestions, tweak it as needed, and then put the critical eye to it. If indeed you think Pk Sharpening is good to go for the larger files, I will put it back into my work flow. That is basically all I wanted to know. If I find I'm having any problems I will send you the files.

Thank you very much.

Craig

[Bruce Fraser]

Where I'm at right now is that I'm 90% convinced I need to add a setting for the 22MP Leaf and Sinar backs. I haven't yet seen enough problems with 1Ds MkII files to convince me to add one for 16MP. So at this point, I do think Digital High-Res is OK for the 1DsMkII. But don't hesitate to send me examples if you run into problems. I still haven't seen very many 1DsMkII files...