PKS and Up-rezzing

[faeyer]

Can anyone comment on my workflow:

1. Convert file from RAW
2. Apply general level adjustments
3. Capture sharpen with PKS
4. Up-rezz in Photoshop
5. Do other edits and creative sharpenings
6. Output sharpen & print

Should I swap point 4 (up-rezz) with some other point?

Thx

[faeyer]

My question was simple:
Should I up-rezz my photos just before output sharpening or just after capture sharpening?

I did some tests and can't come to a definitive conclusion, that's why I need an expert advice ;-)

FAE

[rjanowsky]

FAE,

I'm by no means a PK Sharpener expert, but I normally do my up-rezzing in ACR and
after that do any sharpening actions. For me it works this way.

[faeyer]

Ronald,
Thanks for your input!
I don't always use ACR to process my RAW files. Not sure where I read it but Thomas Knoll wrote that up-rezzing in ACR didn' provide any advantage over doing it in Photoshop for square pixels RAW files.

That's why I asked how to do it from within Photoshop (without ACR).
If anyone want to give his/her 2-cents...

FAE

[Jeff Schewe]

I saw this come through from Bruce. . .but by email instead of an actual post here. I think he forgot he couldn't post from email :-)

Your workflow is the same as mine, for whatever that's worth...

Bruce

[faeyer]

Thanks a lot!

I guess it's the definitive word on it.

FAE

[Bill Raich]

Bruce certainly has forgotten more PhotoShop than I will ever know. However I do not understand his logic. My workflow seems more logical to me. Any comments welcome.

1. Convert file from RAW
2. Capture sharpen with PKS
3. Apply overall adjustments followed by specific area adj. and creative sharpening (if needed)
4. Save file as master copy
5. Resize as needed for a specific output
6. Output sharpen with PKS

[Jeff Schewe]

It's essentially the same. . .but if you need to uprez for output, you are better off doing all your creative sharpening and image retouching -AFTER- you uprez.

[Bruce Fraser]

That's Jeff's opinion, and your milage may vary.

Some people need to see a sharpish image to be able to make good decisions about global tonal adjustments. Others would rather do the heavy tonal lifting prior to sharpening. We accommodate both, though I incline to the latter.

Bruce

[John MacLean Photography]

I just took a properly exposed 100 ISO RAW 1Ds Mark II file and converted it using lame DPP (yuck!). Then I duplicated it and Capture Sharpened it after upsampling (smoother) 200%, which took forever on my G4 933mhz. The other file I Capture Sharpened before upsampling.

While the latter looks slightly sharper, it also has noisier 1/4 tones and has some jaggies when viewed at 100% in PS (1600x1200 - 22" CRT).

I guess I could cut out smaller sections and print them on my 2200, but I was wondering if it's normal for the noise to increase as much as it did when sharpening before upsampling?

Thanks,
John

[Bruce Fraser]

I suspect DPP of doing some sharpening even if you ask it not to...

[John MacLean Photography]

possibly, but it didn't look like it. and since both images were processed thru DPP at least it's apples and apples comparison!